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Gun Control

Hello everyone !

Let's discuss another controversial topic.

Question :
Do you think gun control should be more strict ?

Sub-questions :
- Do people need to have guns to feel safe ?
- Is limiting gun ownership going to reduce the risk of mass murders ?
- Can we make a completely gun-free country (except for the military aspect) ?

Discuss below. Add your arguments. Reply to others. Clashing is permitted. No spam, no hate.

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What do you do when there is an evil you cannot defeat by just means ? Do you stain your hands with evil to destroy evil, or do you remain steadfastly just and righteous even if it means surrendering to evil ?

Well, overhere guns are only allowed with a permit, and its only allowed to use it at a shooting range if I am right.

But I do think that gunownership needs to require some tests (how to use a gun properly but also mental). Since by doing thatyou will already filter a part of the crazy people.

Another thing is that I doubt if its achievable to "limit" the gun sale or decrease it. Since if I am right (not sure since I don't have any experience with the law, rules and restrictions of the USA) it wasn't hard before to get a gun overthere.
Banning it, or making new rules might stimulate the criminal actions in selling illegal guns, which might be unsafe for usage.
So I think it is not possible to get a gun free country after years of allowing.

About the safety aspect, people might feel more safe when having a gun,but if they get into dangerous situations they might lose the control and/or knowledge of what they are doing.

Anyway, in general I think it is hard to ban something which was allowed for decades.

i would reduce the amount of weapons per family, instead of everyone in the family a weapon, the father of the family should have 1.
Honestly i never will understand why everybody in USA may have guns, to defend themselves? In all other countries it's not allowed so we are all unsafe? If we walk on the street without weapon we are all unsafe?

I don't understand why they did it, it only supports illegal weapon trade to other countries and many useless deaths
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kpwbo said:
Question :
Do you think gun control should be more strict ?

Sub-questions :
- Do people need to have guns to feel safe ?
- Is limiting gun ownership going to reduce the risk of mass murders ?
- Can we make a completely gun-free country (except for the military aspect) ?

Yes, no doubt about it, right now you can practically barge into a Walmart and walk out with a gun (not seriously, but you get the general jist of what I'm saying, right?).

The only reason people need guns to feel safe is because violent morons also have guns. Over here in Europe people feel safer without having any guns nearby, whether it's their own or someone else's gun.

Yes, it's about damage control really. If someone is insane, they'll go for it either way, but they can't kill as many people with a knife now, can they?

Unfortunately, America is diseased, rotten to the core. There's no saving it at this point. So a near-complete lack of guns is impossible, but they should definitely try to limit it. Complete banning will unfortunately cause an illegal market at this point, just look at the (pointless) war on drugs.
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Just ban it and make sure all (sure, some will continue illegally) 'gun factories' close. Then, only illegal guns will exist, which is already a great improvement to the number of guns. Also, perhaps the illegal ones are of poor quality and will explode in the face of the criminal (hey, it's banned, so if he/she chooses to use a gun, he/she is a criminal)!
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The only reason people need guns to feel safe is because violent morons also have guns.

I think there are only two possibilities :
- No one has a gun (the best one in my opinion).
- Everybody has a gun.

If only a certain part of the population has a gun, a feeling of insecurity may arise in the other part. The other part would now want to have guns to feel safer. This creates a kind of a vicious circle that leads to everyone's ownership of a gun.

Honestly i never will understand why everybody in USA may have guns, to defend themselves?

I heard it's because they want to protect themselves in case the government becomes dictatorial (Is it worth the risks ? I mean, what are the chances of the American government to become dictatorial when compared to the chances of giving a tool to a mass murderer or the chances of an accident ?).

i would reduce the amount of weapons per family, instead of everyone in the family a weapon, the father of the family should have 1.

Sounds like a good idea the begin with, but why the father of the family ? What if there is no father ? What is a family ?

Just ban it and make sure all (sure, some will continue illegally) 'gun factories' close.

How can you make sure that everyone will give out their guns after gun ownership has been banned ?

kpwbo
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What do you do when there is an evil you cannot defeat by just means ? Do you stain your hands with evil to destroy evil, or do you remain steadfastly just and righteous even if it means surrendering to evil ?

Just give 1 weapon to the "boss" of the family. If the father died, then give it to the mother, if she also died then just give NO weapon.
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Or give it to the psychopossessed child XD.
Of course you can't make sure everybody hands in their guns, but you can arrest them if they show possesion, like with drugs.
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I was going a bit through the forum and havent noticed before that here is such a serious topic here.

First of all i think it is to easy if you say "Just give 1 weapon to the "boss" of the family". How do you say who the "boss" is and afterall the rights should be the same for everyone!

Honestly often I don't have any words for the behaviour of the gun lobby in the United States. When there was the massacre in Newtown, where 20 children were killed, the gun lobby argue that there have to be more weapons, to prevent such things! That is for me totally unintelligible.

Also that there exist guns that are produced for kids is something where i can only shake my head. Seriously, how can weapons be seen as "toys" for kids? When a five year old boy shoots his two year old sister with his OWN gun, you should normally know that there is something wrong with actual system! Therefore I remember a picture i saw in the past which shows especially that:
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ger80 said:
I was going a bit through the forum and havent noticed before that here is such a serious topic here.

First of all i think it is to easy if you say "Just give 1 weapon to the "boss" of the family". How do you say who the "boss" is and afterall the rights should be the same for everyone!

Honestly often I don't have any words for the behaviour of the gun lobby in the United States. When there was the massacre in Newtown, where 20 children were killed, the gun lobby argue that there have to be more weapons, to prevent such things! That is for me totally unintelligible.

Also that there exist guns that are produced for kids is something where i can only shake my head. Seriously, how can weapons be seen as "toys" for kids? When a five year old boy shoots his two year old sister with his OWN gun, you should normally know that there is something wrong with actual system! Therefore I remember a picture i saw in the past which shows especially that:
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I guess i dont need to say more about it...

Couldn't agree any more with you. I was especially saddened when I heard that story about the kid that shot his sister for the first time (I rarely empathise with people, but a kid losing her life because a parent can't even think rationally on the most basic level, it just saddens me), what kind of monster gives his/her child a gun? Heck, what kind of monsters want people to have guns to defend themselves, when the gun was the problem to begin with? I think a lot of things are redeemable, but I just don't have that feeling with guns, there's no point to them besides war.
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